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Deborah Estrin's avatar

And tenured folks need to take the lead to de-risk for pre-tenured.

Johan Ugander's avatar

I love and strongly support workshops/"microconferences". They are one of the best things about academia. One of the main benefits I see is that the room size gets small/focused enough, so people stop talking past each other with their contributions (as they often do at large conferences) and instead talk to/with each other. And the handful of times I've been a discussant (or had a discussant of my own work) at workshops, I feel it's also really raised the bar in terms of people talking to/with each other.

I'm a little unsure about the idea of publishing proceedings for workshops/microconferences. Most of all, I think the non-proceedings nature of workshops is key to drawing in a diverse set of people. For all the flaws of existing publication models, if a workshop is a publication venue then all of the sudden you have the economists, political scientists, legal scholars, etc. no longer willing/interested in joining/presenting, because they need tokens in their own community currency, even if some subset of fields buy in to the new currency model being proposed here. The whole token/currency thing is of course a major issue with academia, but I just worry that adding publications would hurt one of the few Good Things academia has going, and it would be really hard to reform currency norms in All The Fields. So maybe proceedings would be a good optional thing? Maybe something like the "invitation to a special issue" mechanism for an (overlay?) journal?

Worth discussion: ACM EC has a forward-to-journal mechanism, which gets CS, OR, and Econ folks together for a coherent conference but lets them still go harvest their respective tokens. The EC reviews get passed to the journal. And EC also organizes a "Highlights beyond EC" session, which lets people request to present work recently/already published "elsewhere" but relevant to the community. Both of these mechanisms help keep the "conference" and "publication" goals separate, which I think has been good.

Finally, seconding Deborah's comment, I think one of the best contributions tenured folks can make is organize such events and to feature/promote the work of junior/untenured scholars at such events. Ramesh Johari gave me roughly this advice when I got tenure, which I found wise and generous. I've tried to model good behavior on this front.

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