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Bob Williamson's avatar

Hallelujah!

Indeed the Neurips arms race is pathetic but very funny. And I have zero sympathy for any complainers; I just laugh. The solution is trivial, and takes two steps:

1) Just stop submitting, and disengage. That is what I did. It is very easy. I used to enjoy the conference (from about 1990-2015) because I liked talking to people there, but after 2019 I vowed never again (even now it is heading to Sydney because of work I did many years ago to get it there!). I have turned down every request to be a reviewer, area chair, senior area chair, and even senior program chair (a couple of years ago) and am delighted I did. And I don't submit there any more.

2) Stop judging people in terms of whether they are named as authors on papers published there (note my careful wording). Alas, my professorial colleagues (world-wide I mean) are the worst offenders here. This too is pathetic...

[An alternative (only slightly flippant) suggestion which I have made to a Neurips board member is to decouple the papers from the conference: by all means have the conference, for people to confer, but do not tie it to any publication; separately, have a publication venue (aka a journal). Demand submitters to pay handsomely for each submission. Use the vast profits to pay for nice food etc for the conference attendees who would then attend for the sake of conversations. The conference would no doubt shrink which would be a fine thing, and it might be fun to attend again...]

Regarding your other points, well Geoff Hinton reckoned there would be no radiologists any more (I am very glad he was wrong, having interacted with them to my considerable benefit). And other technological superstars are equally terrible at making predictions (there is a large literature on this, not just an opinion, but a well documented pervasive pattern ... look at all the refs in chapter 3 of https://acola.org/sites/default/files/2026-03/saf05-Technology%20and%20Australia's%20Future%20report-full-17sept%202015.pdf ). So when I read the latest predictions, I just recall the performance of prognosticators of times past.

My free advice: Say no to Neurips. And say no to stupid chatbots, and get on with life. Easy :-)

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