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Jessica Hullman's avatar

Hi Ben,

To be clear, my comments to Anoneuid should in no way be taken as advocating for mindless application of frequentist statistics nor blanket reinforcement of reform heuristics that someone has decided must be applied -- I would hope this is obvious, as it would go against so much of my prior research and all of my blog posts on how science reform being misguided. I think the NeurIPS checklist is a mess (as it seems you do).

What motivated my responses to Anoneuid (as should be clear from reading them) was my difficulty with the logical implication of your dismissal of statistics in ML that authors should be absolved of having to match their evidence to their claims. Insisting on certain norms for communicating error is silly. However, presenting data from some experiment you ran without explaining enough about the process for generating those results for someone to evaluate your claims is also silly. At that point, the experiments are simply performative. In which case I'd prefer not to see them at all.

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mirrormere's avatar

I think it's interesting to consider what would happen to ML if Moore's law was not there and compute gains would stall.

I would predict that progress would quickly stall and interest in rigorous frequentist statistics would steadily rise, until the field would look like psychology.

Machine learning can work like it does, with an open system of pull requests, without "statistics" because most improvements do work, and are easily discernable as working, (and maybe that is just because all improvements work "on average", because benefits from compute are rising every year).

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