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Bob Williamson's avatar

This does sound promising. I agree with your diagnosis at the end (point c). The problem is licensing, a point we recognized 20 years ago in calling for open source in ML research. https://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers/v8/sonnenburg07a.html (where we also called for open sourcing the data); a fair part of that paper talked about licenses...

Hiding behind "fair use" (which was designed for a different time) is disingenuous. And so is the trickery of claiming one is just "pointing" to data https://laion.ai/faq/ when one is clearly doing more than that ("downloading and calculating CLIP embeddings"). It will be great if progress is made on respecting data rights fairly.

Finally, I do note that "open science" is open to all ... and is not a nationalistic enterprise! But perhaps good stuff can come from bad motivations.

Nathan Lambert's avatar

I agree and appreciate you continuing to advocate for this! There are still some people fighting this fight, if you ever want to contribute more directly, you know where to find me (or Percy, Ion, and others)

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